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Hello Perry
As a naturalist (distinct from a supernaturalist) I find miracles hard to accept and believe that all things follow natural laws distinct from divine laws, whatever they are. I admire most of what you say because it seems well thought out rather than regurgitated.
I have one question which seems to me to be a contradiction in Christian theology.
Since Jesus died for the sins of mankind, shouldn’t he be dead still? If the debt is now paid since he did die and can now be resurrected, then why didn’t God just raise Adam, and Eve, and everybody. If I owe you $1000 and then pay you back, you won’t return it to me once the debt is paid. Christians that I have asked cannot comprehend the question at all. I expect that you will. Thanks Martin

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The False Doctrine of Absolute Eternal Security

Christian theology believed that God could create the world and then on the seventh day that He could rest and the universe would continue to do what He told it to do. Therefore, the great scientists viewed the study of science as a way of studying the mind of God.

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Western Christianity believed that the universe was governed by fixed, discoverable laws, and that’s what gave birth to science. The reason that science succeeded in the West and failed in all those other places was that in all those other places, there was no theological basis to believe this.

I cannot change my eternal security. God has placed His down payment within my body—the Holy Spirit of God.

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You state that;
((If He didn’t rise, then He didn’t defeat judgement.))
Perry stated once;
((It’s essential to Christian theology that Christ rise from the dead, that He defeat death. Otherwise what is the point?))

Well, “9/11” actually is a myth

DeHaan was a great man of God, and I respect him dearly; BUT, I disagree with something he said in his book concerning the Eternal Security of the believer.

It’s essential to Christian theology that Christ rise from the dead, that He defeat death. Otherwise what is the point?

Eternal Security: A Biblical Perscpective

Your definition of God differs from my (more traditional)one. I am grateful for your definition and now understand why you react to the label of superstitious.
Your definition “A Being that can account for logic, constant physical laws, and is the cause of the universe. All other attributes are not considered.”
“All other attributes are not considered.”
What say I? Brilliant!!!
This definition would question the immaculate conception, resurrection of Jesus after three days, rapture, stopping of the Sun, raising of Lazarus and any other supernatural miracles. These miracles defy natural laws and I have trouble believing in them too. Natural explanations are more simple and more likely.
I wonder why a being is needed at all to explain logic, and laws, and origins, but as a naturalist, I do like your definition. I do find this definition hard to reconcile with a Christian God of miracles.
While my last paragraph is genuine, I present it to test your definition and see if it is closer to mine, allowing for supernatural laws.

(Titus 1:2). As a matter of fact, the Bible is speaking of Eternal Security when It tells us that God cannot lie...

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Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” Believe and the work is done, you are saved securely and eternally.

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Anyway, George MacDonald, who most people know of because C.S. Lewis claimed to be a disciple of sorts, and many of the Inklings were devotees, as was Madeleine Lengle…he had a pretty well developed theological perspective (which was rooted in an intense knowledge base like your brothers) which makes the case for a Gospel of Jesus Christ for the which the world is desperate…but which pretty much excludes our current evangelical view of hell. Have you ever read his “Hope of the Gospel?” I would wager it will shake some of your orthodoxy to it’s core. It has mine. and for the better. He posits that one lens through which to view the scriptural narrative is that Jesus came not to save us from an eternal punishment for sin, but to save us from sin itself. Sin itself creates a here and now hell for the sinner. He comes to break the chains of this hell.